Jessica and Warwick

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Photos by Sandy Connon

“Not made in Fiji” Our collaboration comes together in object space.

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 We fooled them all as to who made our piece  – everyone said they couldn’t spot our piece without checking the catalogue (some said they recognised your pearl beads from previous use) which I think makes it a success collaboration wise – we made a piece together that doesn’t look like either of us made it. I think that’s a good way to look at what collaboration can do.

Other thoughts now its done:
Using the starting point of a 19th century Fijian work allowed us to deny authorship (by either of us – although we had a role in choosing that work to replicate) but by doing so neither of us involved our own ‘look’ in the work.
I provided one material you provided the other.
We both worked on it so the division of labour was pretty even.
I guess I devised the construction method but I was working on replicating the example  – I realise there are different ways of going about constructing it  and if you had done one with the same materials and the same information (the photograph in the book) then it would have come out different to mine but I don’t think that undermines our collaboration thesis.
See I am saying we had a thesis  – we just didn’t know we had one until the piece was finished (but don’t tell anyone)
No it’s not a secret  – I happily fess up to not knowing what I’m doing until I’ve done it.
Our piece is just another example of how making can be  a ‘backwards into the future’  process – or is that ‘forwards into the past’?
Is it a good piece? We will see – meanwhile I’m growing fonder of it.
W.

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Do you know that Carl Andre (great minimalist artist) quote:

 ‘A man climbs a mountain because it is there. A man makes a work of art because it is not there’

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To Dear Mr Freeman,

Small beads are really hard to make.

Specially when there is so many amazing examples everwere in the world.
Myself and my cat Rocky have just decided i am a failure at bead making.
However i will keep pressing on waiting for a miracle.
yours truly
Jess
Dear miss Winchcombe
Don’t listen to Rocky. Cats are so negative – especially when it comes to tiny bead making.
You are not a failure sometimes finding solutions is just hard stuff.
I think our beads can be made from anything that might already have a hole in it. The tubing sounded like a good starting point. Put it aside but keep looking around – just remember to think about tiny beads as you do. You can find them – you just have to feel like you own their discovery. Maybe finding something and scratching, painting, burning or hitting it with a hammer might give you the sense of ownership.
The idea of the piece already belongs to someone else but I’m still feeling ownership.
Enough trying tonight –
Your obeadient servant
Warwick
I have taken your advice and have been looking at this from a new angle.
I have had a habit for some time now to paint pearls, turns out i have a pile of very small black pearls that are very similar to the size and aesthetic of your silver beads. They are also irregular shapes so look the part with out looking shop bought. I have been painting half the pearl with a color and it feels very much like i am putting my signature on them. I have quite a few necklaces out there in the world with painted pearls so it feels closest to home as in ownership.
Im happy with that, will post some off soon.
Thank you for your help, i was so stuck.
Ill be interested to know what you think.
Jess
Painted pearls  – I like the sound of that.

Yep that’s ownership.
Are they already drilled?

Are we collaborating?
Am I mentoring?
Crikey don’t tell Peter!
W
You know i think we are.

Well done us.
Turns out your a fantastic mentor.lol.
Yes the pearls are drilled,  although stuck on to nylon, every second one is stuck however i have got 100 black ones un stuck so far. I should have the same again by this avo. So we are working with 200 beads.
If we Desperately need more i can start drilling the glue from the other ones.A possible 100 more with a bit of patience.
Im just working on a color pallet. Before i start with the rather limited precious cargo.
I have all the shades of blue in enamel paint, black, rust red, soft yellow and apple green, forrest green and bright pink. Is it a masculine piece?
 I am taken with the rust red and the yellow so far as well as a blue. Do we want many colors, or a limited pallet say 3 colors?
I have taken some screen shots for you to see.The pearls are next to your sample.
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Do you know that Carl Andre (great minimalist artist) quote: ‘A man climbs a mountain because it is there. A man makes a work of art because it is not there’ W

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Hey Jess – thanks for the cuppa length email – I’ve had a few cupper’s since your email arrived.
Lots in fact – Karl Fritsch and I have been visiting jewellers workshops for the last 3 days here in Auckland and every visit involved a cuppa.
The visits were part of our research for the NZ jewellery exhibition we are doing for Schmuck next year. Don’t think Queenstown is on the tour schedule unfortunately but if it was we would definitely call in for a cuppa.
At the moment I think I’m going to remake my favourite soft piece of jewellery that I saw in the Auckland Museum 30 years ago. I’ve attached a pic of it from a book about Pacific jewellery – I think I’ll do a version maybe without the plaited sections – it’s so indistinct in the photo how it actually works that it will be different when I’m finished. The beads – not sure what I’ll make/find. Don’t want to make me a 100 tiny beads do you – that would be our collaboration solved eh? You do all the making work and I put it together as a copy of someone else’s work – you, me a
nd anonymous.
I haven’t even looked for my stash of horse hair – I know I used some 30 years ago and I’ve seen it since….
See what happens over the next 10 days and I’ll get in touch with you then about how we deal with the display boards decision on 22 May.
Thanks for my new star pic  -a beauty (Munich?) and thanks for the other images of the statues.
Seems others agree with my advice (I think I gave some) to look at ‘fashion’ as a place to direct your work –
your work has the energy.
Your Black magazine story wasn’t attached to your email – I can have a look next time I am in a mag store.
xW

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Warwick,
Did anyone tell you that your a genius today?

 I think you have solved the dilemma of the year.

I would love to make the beads for this rather interesting piece. It is very beautiful. I see it has no clasp yet, i know a lot of pacific pieces were fastend with a loop button effect. The button made in this case with horse hair could blend in very nicely.
It would defiantly save a motley crew look to our plinth.
The beads look like glass. Could they be made of resin or bone for this project?. I actually have had a few lessons in glass bead making I could pull it off if i got practicing. Himmmm maybe a few trials are needed.
Reply:W
You can call me a genius today (no one else has) but the idea comes more from self preservation than any genius.

Just couldn’t see ‘soft’ happening very easily – I even tried whittling foam rubber…..
So glad you like the Fijian armband.
The beads are glass trade beads  – very common though the Pacific in the 19th Century.
I think by trying to do a version of this piece neither of our egos are out there trying to stake a claim in how it looks – the collaboration is neutralised but the result isn’t – it might even be beautiful despite us.
Your ‘hard’ beads can be made from anything I reckon  – try out a few ideas – being tiny is the technical challenge. Small things with holes in them are real hard to make I find.
There’s no fastening  – its wrapped as an armband and so maybe just tucked on itself.
I think we should stay faithful to that unless it cries out for a clasp at some stage.
I like its formless, indeterminate look – a what do you do with it look – it doesn’t make jewellery sense until you wrap it around your arm – I like that.
The exhibition karl and I are doing is called Wunderruma and I wrote a brief description for the Overview Newsletter (I’ve attached a copy  – do you get it?)
The reason the description of our curatorial intention is vague is because we are reserving the right to make it up as we go along.
Its like any piece of work  – you don’t know what it looks like until its finished.
Do you know that Carl Andre (great minimalist artist) quote:
‘A man climbs a mountain because it is there. A man makes a work of art because it is not there’
Or closer to home – Kobi Bosshard:
‘People make things to see what they look like after they have made them’.
xW.
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Germany, the chance for our works to be seen among many amazing makers. Set up concerns, The handshake book launch, artist talks, studio visits,positive feed back by collectors,  Karl’s 50 birthday,Ottos retrospective exhibition, Warwick wins the big prize, and i have an interview at the royal Academy of fine art.screen-capture-509 screen-capture-516

All coming soon.

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I had the pleasure of having a photo shoot with the amazing Shantanu Sharick recently. He is traveling the world trading amazing photos for anything he needs, flights, accommodation hard drives and in my case a beautiful piece of hand made luggage.

It has taken my whole making life to find someone who captures that bit more and in a style that i admire. After so many shoots and failed looks i am so happy to have meet such an amazing talent.
Warwick freeman planted a seed in my head, that has sprouted and is growing in to a tree as we speak.
It is about presentation. A while ago Warwick and Octavia curated an exhibition of jewellery images. They were strong and powerful. Making me think how important it is to have amazing images of works on the body.
Freeman and i also talked about the flash back lit photos that seem so exiting making the real piece look somewhat disappointing. Leading on from these reflections i have tried to capture pieces in some sort of world of there own giving them a flavor. The viewer can get the idea of the piece yet still be exited when seeing the real

thing.
I was most interested in how King Shantanu as i call him (named after a King and one freken legend) lays out his blogs. It would be a fantastic way of giving a bit more to a catalogue or book. He lays out the location first, this case my home studio.
Then he gives a wee story of his experience and follows with a sneak peak of the projet. You get the feeling there is a lot more to it than that and do some research to find out more. In my case i would hope the viewer would really want to see the actual pieces and go find a gallery they can view them.
This is a perfect example of the new strategic makers out there these days, that Warwick refers to in one of his letters to me.

I collect diamond shapes and Warwick collects star forms.

I start looking at branding myself with some of these diamond ideas.

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Sometimes i get to a stage with some experiments that are not solved and it helps a lot to have a photo shoot. I then can see things come to life on the body and similar to costume the pieces come to life, inspiring the next move so to speak.

Taking the images into Pagers i try them out for my business card designs for Germany. This is an easy way to quickly design things as it has perfect layout suggestions. You can also cut and paste to try pages of interesting suggestions.

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W feb 11 2013 Ok lets give them our movie script:

JW –   So there is this the line of yours that has stuck with me:  ‘Art is crap therapy  – it’s a serious sandpit – if you want to play in it then you have to play like it’s a serious game.’  WF – I sound like Mr Tough guy. JW –  Well you might be Mr Tough guy sometimes. WF –  Yeah as I’ve said –  I’ve never made a soft piece of jewellery.  JW –  I’ll make you a book on soft things, fabric and colour.  Fabric is a beautiful medium, it has a curious voice. WF – I’m listening. Then I’ll make a soft piece and you will have to make a hard piece – I did say somewhere that HandShake is an opportunity to be open to influence. JW –   Speaking of influence – do you like wine or a good whisky? WF –  You ask tough questions. screen-capture-400

   Jess to Warwick:

For me the most active thing i have responded to your mentoring is the constant consideration of place and space. The way i look at archiving works and making works worthy to come out and see. Warwick to Jess: Thanks for finding that much clarity in the spotty contact we have had in this project – I’m impressed with you ability to sift that – I’m happy with that take. Jess: Below is experimental photos of myself, friends and my works at my home studio.

Photos taken by Shantanu StarickModels, Jessica Winchcombe and Terzan Elliot.Support Milly Be and Wendy Winchcombe

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 I have been thinking about our collaboration.  I’m Making Warwick a book on soft things fabric and color.Introducing him to a new medium to work with.Here is a sneak peek of a few page’s, expressing how i am inspired by fabric use and what i look at for solving techniques,color, composition and editing.

Color Pallets scatter my studio.

Recently i was setting up for an exhibition in Master works jewellery box and was appalled to find i was missing a Yellow Ocre piece. I hadn’t made it but it would have brought all the colors together to flow for the eye.I was a bit confused why i had got that wrong un till i got home and saw i had a yellow ocre table cloth on the table i was editing on.lol

Warwick took me to see some amazing exhibitions in Auckland recently.

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Introducing me to a new favorite artist. Hany Armanious,at Michael Lett gallery. I had seen Hany’s works before but the Lett gallery had curated the works in a dark room that gave the works a very alluring enjoyment. (Another example of the power of curation.) Some of Michael’s works are made from objects that have been remade in another material. Like a wooden sleeper re made in Plastic and then used again. I enjoyed that and herd the voice of Peter Deckers in my head saying (Dont just use a found object, MAKE IT YOURS) We also visited StarkWhite Gallery and had the pleasure of exploring the collaboration of Karl Fritsch and Gavin Hipkins with an empty room. The works are exiting for me as i love to see jewellery ideas and language out of context. The pieces of Art in themselves are stunning compositions.

 Below:Warwick considering the lay out of Kobi’s retrospective works to be held at Object space. Each piece was laid out and considered before delicately sewn onto boards. It looks like quite an amazing exhibition with works being lent from far and wide, from personal collections and such places as Te papa.

There was this time back in 2008 were i met Warwick and he gave a talk to our class and was showing some drawings he did. He said he would put the date on the drawing when he drew it and again when he made the piece in the drawing.

I have a personal delight when i make something and then later find a collage or point of reference i had forgotten about. Today i had that very excitement. In 2010 i was traveling in Germany and  I was doing a lot of collage of things i liked in my visual diary.

Here is something i made. As you can see it is quite strange.

So in Aug i was playing on my new industrial sewing machine pimping out some clothing for an art collector and practicing on my own wardrobe when i came up with these little dudes.

The exiting thing is i am of to see my Mum soon and she has kept my visual diaries since i was a little girl and can usually trace things back to something. Like i showed her a piece of very conceptual worked out jewellery once when i was studying and she laughed and said what are you talking about, you were exploring those ideas when you were 11 years old. I guess thats the exiting thing about growing up in a art fulled home, discussing art and exhibitions around the table as long as i can remember. When we were kids ,rewards were given for creativity, it makes me laugh now but i remember learning to knit and dye wool and being pretty exited when i got to stay up 1/2 an hour longer because i knitted faster than my older sister.It will be nice to go back and look through the curious collections of my life’s art, Mum has kept and see what is relating to what i do now. I think the CURIOUS collections factor has all ways been there.

I was telling Warwick about a project i am doing with David Terplitzky (an energetic art collecter). Explaining how it has been good for me to stop and consider what i am making once and a while and explane myself.With the projects we are doing we discus the individual value of each component and make sure it is the best possible product to use for the design. HANDSHAKE  exhibitions are exactly that. In fact when i first started i was a bit flustered about showing all the time in group shows with limitations of how many works and where it was placed but now i am beginning to understand it is more about being clever in the presentation and selection of the works to best represent my practice. Now i feel comfortable to really start pushing the boundary’s again like i would in a solo exhibition.

I have had some very funny emails from my collectors this year encouraging me to have a solo show and being confused about my little contributions to the Handshake exhibitions. One said that the mass flair of energy was missing although he really enjoyed the individual pieces. I assured him it was brewing, Admitting that i was working on a few projects that were going to bloom with the new year.

MASTER WORKS JEWELLERY BOX SOLO EXHIBITION  OPENING

THE NATIONAL SHOWS HANDSHAKE

The exhibition at the National came together really nicely.I was there with Caroline and Becky helping set up and it was nice to have a few days to conceder the works and the whole HANDSHAKE process. It was clear that the makers are maturing in there practice and are growing from the interaction with there Mentors. Many of the shakers made the effort to come to the opening and as usual it was a really great time catching up with everyone.There was a lot of discussion about going to germany and refining the set up process as well as fundraising and general communication with such a large group.

I had some fantastic discussions about the curation ideas for Handshake in Munich Germany Next Year. Hilder Deckers and i sat down and brought up concerns about the over all show being curated in a way that expressed that it was a experimental process or a growing process. Something with lively, possibly interactive and defiantly original pushing boundaries, splashed with a high standard of works and well practiced curation. We came to the conclusion it would be best to have a practice here in N.Z with all the works prior to packing it for Munich. There is thought from Peter of small chairs painted white on the walls. I want to add perspex boxes under the chairs packed full with the projects energy, experiments to show the process. With a few of the best on top of the chair. Hilder suggested that maybe one could place there favorite on the chair.

I will be in Wellington to continu the discussion in Mid Sep and have been busy researching posible  ideas that would solve certain concerns. It is so amazing we have such people as Hilder looking over the Project as well as many more un noted observers with abundant experience.THANK YOU

The set up for the HANDSHAKE exhibition was really neat. The building the NATIONAL is in is stunning beautiful and CAROLINe has a very good eye for placement and is fantastic to discus things with. It is strange she is not a maker as she speaks a very strong jewellery language and it is exiting to have someone like that representing our show.

Debbie and I had fun practicing some chair poses for the catalogue photo shoot before we went to the studio with Cindy who took our shots and said to stop posing lol…….not that it stopped us, it was to much fun.Thanks Cindy

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These are some things i have been looking at.. MAKE THE TYPE OF JEWELLERY YOU WANT TO BUY.

Ring silver and leather, Ring Gold band with focus point, leather cuffs.J.Winchcombe 2012 White sea pearl elbow pads sewn into a bed of brown snake skin. J.Winchcombe Aug 2012 Make less of a better Quality. Make a piece so the viewer couldn’t imagine anything better. Hair extension  earring, beauty in adornment. J.winchcombe 2012 Design with someone in Mind. I bet this lady would like a piece of amazing adornment to bust out.  Leather, pearls and resin, mounted on an agile frame. Yes i think this piece is for her. “I have been interested in skin for some time now. Finding it fascinating how individuals skin holds there history. I use leather in this way to tell my own versions of stores. Colored, Treated, Processed,Recycled Leather, Silver WHATS WARWICK UP TO?

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Now I’m in rebuilding mode for Funaki in Melbourne on 1st May and also Collect in London with Gallery RA on 12 May – so both those lots of work have to be ready in the next month or 2.
I’m going to Melb but only my jewellery is going to London.
As you can see from the shots below I had to deal with the problem of putting stuff in a room – the shelves are just another way of doing it. A fairly simple way (although I made the brackets especially for it).

I called the exhibition Room 22 as I thought I might start calling my shows by the room number. So the next show I put stuff in would be Room 23. 22 was just a place to start the count from, although I do know of an interesting  Room 22.It is in the Pompidou Art Gallery in Paris – Room 22 contains the private collection of Andre Breton. It’s a simulation of his house interior – his collection of work of his colleagues and various artifacts of tribal origins. It looks like this: A very cool room. Mine is sparse by comparison – I must work harder

I like the look of the high spiky legged tables (on your blogg  – in Queenstown I guess) as a another way of dealing with the same problem – how to ‘put stuff in rooms’.
Did it work?

The last weeks have been full with progress. My portfolio design is coming along, i have some works almost resolved for my solo show in Aug at Master Works Jewellery box, as well as a solid line of inquiry for our next handshake Exhibition. Exiting times. Recently i did a Petcha Kutcha talk here in Queenstown about Handshake and it was a really great time to look at what everyone is up to and the background of everyones mentores. wow i am all ways so exited to see what an amazing bunch of talented artists i get to hang out with.These are resent works made with the idea of limiting my pallet, works in progress. Jess

Hi Jess Nice to see you in Auckburg. I like the necklaces you are doing at the moment but as you say their opened out character makes it hard to make them look interesting when displayed  – although I think the gloved hands worked well at Masterworks. Anyway that openness reminded me of Annelies Planteydt’s  work and how she uses interesting ways to show it in photographs  – as you can see below. Nothing to do with how they are worn but interesting eh? Til out next Handshaking W.annelies-planteydt1
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To Dear Reader,

Where can i even begin, i ask my self as i sit back looking at the past months works, projects and revelations. I took a little time out from the continual blogging that seemes to devour hours at a time leaving my studio lonely.

 I would be delighted to invite you to my studio and have you run your hands over the texture of a sample not yet solved. I want to show you the works unfolding into masterpieces if only for a moment.
I want you to experience something more engaging than a photo on a screen in your chair at home. To have you try on the prolific experiment of your choice and see your response.I want to open up my visual diary’s and tell
you of my inspirations.

How can I package the energy of a moment in the middle of the night when a solution has been found for the next big epic idea. How can you respond to a picture of an artist change in direction or shift in mind set. These are the frustrations i have with blogging my practice. This is what i have been looking at. Jess 5 June 12

This is a recent set i made for an narrative exhibition called Tunnel vision a rebel response to a 130,000,000 Tunnel through the national park. J

I had a photo shoot with Terzan Elliot who was Zambezi’s model for some time, she taught me about taking photos on the body and l learnt some tricks of the trade when it comes to capturing a look, or an attractive idea attached to your product…. is that were i want to go? Who knows but it is fun to try see and PLAY.
 I have had my head down making, exploring, displaying and reworking. After my amazing feedback from Jemposium and my excitement about Warwick’s response to my last mail i have been branching out a little. EXPLORING and feeling fresh and passionate with a little more reserve than usual.Creating boundaries for my experimentation rather than an endless waterfall of un leashed possibilities. I may be growing up….. who knows.

Update to come on Jess and Warwick collaboration.Hi Jess Hope your Petcha Kutcha went well. Seems there was plenty of good advice in Wellington but it’s up to you to sift it. They are all right in their own way but you have to decide what’s going to be your way….always the sifting. Advice is all good but y ou have to sort the ‘good for you’ from the ‘bad for you’ advice and you’ll choose wrong sometimes – don’t worry. Karl’s push all boundaries, make whatever ha ppens:  – that’s always got to be good advice bu t you have to decide how you will work with those results  –  how and when is the edit going to happen. Maybe not at all, just see what happens – the crap can always go in the bin. But regardless of their output, everyone edits, even someone as prolific as Karl. Marcel’s shift the presentation intent, reposition the work: –  is the plinth serving you well is a good question – are your options still the g allery? Maybe collaborations with fashion spaces are a better option? Many fashion people have been open to having their shops used as project spaces. Consider what happens to your work though when it is removed from that presentation context  – ask the question – how does it  work without it? Presentation is a big deal nowadays  (I know I’m spending more time thinking about it) but it’s only a part of how jewellery i s viewed. Although it’s always nice to see it presented with thought – try not to insult the jewelleryness of your work. Frabritzio’s  work out who are you talking to:  – yes who are you talking to? I always think this is one of the differences between fine art and applied art. My jewellery is very deliberately talking to someone  – a wearer – they are a real entity to me. I agree with Dorothea Prühl who has spoken on this relationshi p (see first para in quote below) The person the work speaks too ‘has rights’  – When I make I am also making a contract with the future ‘wearer’  – the work is not an autonomous art work. Manon’s – seek perfection – such good advice – slackness has no part in the work. But don’t see perfection in any narrow way (meaning technique or finish etc). Perfection could be the ‘edit’ – could be the presentation. And the advice that you should get it out there in as many places and in as affordable chunks as you can: …….well not sure that is appropriate to your ambitions and before you decide to do that, you would have to see it clearl y as a strategy that might make some money but one that won’t raise your profile as an artist. Besides price is not very often a determiner for the galleries  – they don’t have to p ay up front for it. But if you decided to hit on the fashion stores then that’s probably how you did it. No reason you can’t have 2 strategies going if you have the energy. Did all that sound sage enough  – wise words of advice from your old mentor…. fact is  – who knows sometimes. I remember reading in a book by Frank Zappa once about his experience in the 1960s with record company executives and did they really know what was going on when they signed Zappa and other experimental artists. No he said : “Old cigar chomper guys listened to the tapes and said, ‘I dunno. Who knows what the fuck it is? G’head, put it out! Who knows?’ And sometimes they got it right. My experience counts for something but I think my T-shirt says: ‘What the fuck do I know G’head’. Our collaboration for Objectspace? You suggest some workable ideas.

I’ve had this thought for a while  – it’s a kind of reactionary thought  – relating to trends in contemporary jewellery – and it goes:
‘I’ve never made a soft piece of jewellery’It’s true – I can’t recall ever making a soft piece of jewellery and yet it has become such a prevalent trend and I can be trendy. I guess the ‘softness’ apparent these days is because of the increase in the number of women practitioners.And that goes back to our first blog exchange  and your comment:  ‘Warwick makes masculine forms and I make feminine forms’ and my ‘Womenup’ piece in response.Maybe we should go back to that beginning exchange and (this sounds obvious) I’ll make a soft piece and you will have to make a hard piece. You could carve on

e of your pieces in stone or wood and I could do a soft remake of one of my pieces in leather (that idea makes me think of Claus Odenburg sculpture from the 1960s Pop Art era that I was attracted too back then – his soft objects). A pretty basic idea but it has a nice circular, self-referencing aspect identifying our differences  – a collaboration of opposites but not in opposition. One piece each  – that would hit my ‘less is best ‘ sweet spot too. What is the timing for the OS exhibition? I’m off to Melbourne next weekend for my Gallery Funaki exhibition

(probably at the same time you are running up a mountain side I’ll be having a beer somewhere considerably higher over the Tasman Sea). I’m also in a show at the National Gallery of Victoria – an International survey put together by the Design Museum in London (see notice below) that I will get the chance to see while in Melbourne. Re that other question – I’m pretty well stocked for single malt at present but good Central Otago pinot noir always goes down well

All the best

xWHey there Warwick,

Did you hear the cool news that Handshake is going to Munich in 2014? Were all working the funding side of it at the moment. Its a nice deadline to really bust something cool out.
At the moment i am working on new works, still in leather but made in a new way. Restricting myself to 1 way of working to keep the group tight.I am having a few problems solving the finish of them. If i make it simple or technical.  A combination would be perfect.
I have a Petcha Kutcha talk on the N.Z contemporary jewellery movement on Thursday evening. I am trying to create a level of education here within the artists, enough so as i can have conversations and it is really working. People have started responding excitedly to the works i have in exhibitions her
e and wanting more. We had a risky exhibition opening the other night that got great reviews and felt like a Wellington evening out. All the artists involved have been really exited ever since, a chick even surfaced who has her masters in contemporary jewellery so i can say i officially have 1 jewellery geek friend in Queenstown.
I haven’t been making so much as i would like as i am training for a mountain race on the 28 of April and i found a great surf beach that i have been sneaking off to get some waves before the snow. With the sun still shining it is hard to stay in the studio.
I have been thinking about what i was told in master class though.
Karl said i should push all the boundaries and make everything i think of at whatever standard it comes. Marcell said i should make how i make and not worry about perfect finishing but display in a different way so if it is not made really smartly it should not be considered…..eg a curios shelf. Not a white plinth. Frabritzio said he thought the pieces were true art but i needed to think about packaging and who i was contacti
ng, like target marketing who i want to see the works. Nanon said if its not perfect dont show it.Someone else said that i also needed to make small affordable pieces and have them in as many galleries as possible to get my name out there.
This has lead me to be working on my visual portfolio. As i hardly show any of what i make and hardly anyone sees it. So maybe i should make a book or publish my works better on line.
I have been asked what our approach is for our collaboration.
As there is a exhibition coming up in Object space. The collaboration can be something we both work on. Or i could respond to a piece you have all ready made and we could show them both. or i could make heaps of works and you could display them. Or you might have a better idea.
What do you think?
Also do you like wine or a good Whisky?

AN EXHIBITION I CURATED RECENTLY HERE IN Q TOWN

With 8 other jewellery artists. Looking at jewellery on and off the body and introducing contemporary jewellery to the art crew here in the south.

AN EXHIBITION I CURATED HERE IN QUEENSTOWN I looked at the works on the body and installed as a group, we also made a video that im not sure was so successful but was a good learning curve.

Moddel: Zepher Rees
INTRODUCING THE CREW
BELLOW:
Jess Winchcombe curator director.
Tim miller made all the installation
Daimon Schwalger took photos and made a video of the exhibition with a sound track of His own NOMAD tunes. BIG THANKS GUYS FOR BEING PART OF MY PROJECTS TEAM UNDER THE UMBRELLA “ONE WOODEN LEG PRODUCTIONS”
Anika and Paul
from Fluid design also helped as well as Milly Bea who sung at the opening  and have yet to send me there pics  lol.
Warwick.
I like the look of the high spiky legged tables (on your blogg  – in Queenstown I guess) as a another way of dealing with the same problem – how to ‘put stuff in rooms’.
Did it work?
Until next time.
Warwick
PS: A colleague in Munich Alexander Blank sent me a copy of his student presentation –  a movie he made of his work while he was a  student at the Academie  a few years back.
He sent it to me because it starts with the idea that we shouldn’t have to make artist’s statements to go with our work (as you know that’s a particular issue I’m interested in).
It”s quite a large file so I’m sending it to you by We Transfer (they will tell you when it arrives). Its very amusing  – but don’t send it on –  as Alex says:
Dear Warwick,I am happy if you show it around to your friends and collegues, just not everywhere…and if you would let me know some times who saw it and what they thaught, that would be nice!Many greetings, Alexander

New contrasting Works by Jessica Winchcombe Nov 2011

I am very interested in the way the Handshake project has pulled me in strange directions. I have a few bodys of work developing that are both conceptual and wearable or object based things that express experimentation. Its like i have to have both to breath. If i dont have the strange,extreme, pushing all boundaries pieces laying round my studio how can i make wearable things that have vibrance to them when i want to create something wearable and beautiful.

Karl Fritch said to me onece that every piece he made taught him something.Now more than ever i understand that it is so true. Every piece has a story and if it doesn’t make it to a gallery it should sit on the shelf and be useful.

The works i am submitting to the Master Works Handshake exhibition are the pieces from the shelf, the ones that i have been making during this year. Consider yourself privileged. If you bought a group like this and put it on your wall, you could potentially be inspired for a life time.

Fingers Annual Group Show Below

I am exited to be in an exhibition with Warwick, by fluke really. Its the Annual show and i was invited to submit works after the student awards exhibition. However I’ll enjoy it as a huge achievement as 4 years ago when i first started a degree in contemporary jewellery i had no idea that i would ever talk to my heros let alone have an exhibition with them.

October 31st – November 11th  2011

 

DearWarwick,i made this and thought about some of the lines in your drawings and how you were interested in the minimalist.You really did that so nicely with the beautiful piece in the art fair. Have you got a photo for the blog?

Jess oct 4 2011

New works by Jessica Sep 2011

Well it is inspiring times, I find the more projects i have on the more creative i get. Currently the Handshake project has been a fantastic to come back and visit for some research. I can read a letter from Warwick in a different way each time i look at it. Currently i am working on 4 exhibitions and all the work is bouncing off each other. Responding to each other and the only difference is the media i am using. What a year. Jessica oct 4 2011

Hi Jess

I’ve been away up North for a few days at my brothers house  – it’s north of Kaitaia  – a bit of fishing and playing scrabble – I did receive your dispatch from Sydney and watched the vid – who you calling a ‘grandfather’ girl? Oh yes I guess I am one….
Good to hear it went really well in Sydney and with Marzee – glad it’s all feeling positive.
A sustainable practice? Yes well it’s a dodgy business (the art one) even for me after 30 years. early on I did it a variety of ways, worked for a commercial jeweller, even made production type product in the early days.
But about 20 years ago I decided to throw my lot in with ‘art’.I had no choice – enough talent and the need. A quote:

A lingering mental disorder in our culture is people’s compulsion to pretend that special virtues, spiritual or political, motivate artists. Two things motivate artists: talent and exigency, what they can do and what they must. The art world makes artists. Artists do not make the art world. Artists are abjectly elitist. They are idealists condemned to life sentences in luxury trades (whether or not they earn a dime). So what?

Peter Schjeldahl
That ‘luxury trade’ art  has worked for me – in that I was around the scene internationally with interesting work (read different to European work) at a time when there were less makers, less galleries so it was possible to make a mark. That period in contemporary jewellery  developed  a small group of dedicated collectors that were subsequently very influential in positioning various makers as worth buying – fortunately I got onto that list (struggling to stay on these days).
I think the explosion in the numbers of galleries and makers has created an exponential number of people interested in the field but it is much less focused now.
I’m struggling a bit with that  – I have not tried to keep up with the expansion – rather I have contracted  – I produce less work and sell it in fewer places  – working instead with my established audience rather than looking for new ones.
Your options are so different that I wouldn’t really know where to start but I think whatever they are –  always approach each of them with an idea about what your strategy is  – what is it you are aiming for with your work? Is it ‘art’? If the project on offer doesn’t answer that aim then you can

still go ahead but be realistic about the outcomes (not everything is about advancing your career – sometimes you do things just because a friend asked you). Usually though if it isn’t a fit don’t waste your time. The trick will be figuring out what are the ‘fits’ and what are the ‘time wasters’.
I can help a bit but sometimes you’ll get it wrong  – but then there’s no accounting for serendipity and I’ve had plenty in my career and you never know who might walk into the room…….. whatever room your work ends up in. When you start to make the hook ups with people willing to show your work  – give it some thought – ask around, do a bit of strategic research.
We can talk about this more sometime as I said  – its a bit of a long game…..it may not be a ‘valid job’ for a while but don’t treat it like a ‘hobby’. Art is crap therapy  – it’s a serious sandpit – if you want to play in it then you have to play it like its a serious game.

Sydney Opening 20/17 gallery

So is it the exhibition or the gathering of artists that is more potent in this Handshake project.? The creative energy that was surrounding the Sydney Handshake crew was in full swing. When we gathered to curate the exhibition we were all talking the same language. Something that made the whole week in Sydney roll so high in energy and passion for the arts, projects and developing as artists. When i did the artist talk it was so amazing to chat to individuals who really wanted to be a part of this strong community that is in total support of each other.Artist talk by Jessica and previous notes from Warwick Below.

Hi Jess
Nice to see you in Dev the other day. Thinking about your floor talk in Sydney……some impressions of the Handshake project if you want to use them:

I think because HandShake formalises the mentor/mentee relationship it gives it a more pressured feel – because it has to observe formalities; meet certain deadlines, create a blog record – this means it doesn’t unfold in the usual open ended way that I think of mentoring usually operating.

HandShake’s formality sometimesgives the relationship a sense that it is more like tutoring. Tutoring is a more confronting encounter – it has responsibility attached to it.
Mentoring is more informal – more like rubbing up against one another – it has no responsibility beyond the individuals sensibility…if you learn nothing from me then so be it – it means I had nothing to offer you. HandShake seems to assume I do. I think mentoring is a relationship where the parties take only what they need from it. That is not as selfish as it suggests because what sits above that approach is that it functions with generosity – not obligation but goodwill. With HandShake I sense obligation – not from you but the Handshake system.
This assessment isn’t a gripe  – just opening up some thoughts for your talk about my view of the project.
I think what it makes me do is think about what is our common ground in this project. What are the useful territories we can share
We shouldn’t try and talk about the details of your work; colour construction etc.  Besides I’m really too far out of my depth on your work and your aesthetic to make practical suggestions.
But we can discuss the intention of it, what you want it to do and where you want it to take you.
That latter point being about how do you develop a sustainable professional practice around your ambitions. After all, being an artist is a long game and you have to play it that way to achieve any sort of sustained practice. I bumbled along when I started but I can see the art world now is a far more strategic game than it has ever been in the past.
Damian Skinner has just sent me a doc on a paper he is writing about that strategic positioning – he has created several categories of practitioner to illustrate how people view their practice. They are:
I am a visual artist who makescontemporary jewellery.
I am a metalsmith who makes contemporary jewellery. 
I am a maker who makes contemporary jewellery
I am a contemporary jeweller who makes contemporary jewellery.  I’m not sure you have to position yourself exclusively in one of those categories but it is interesting that there is the need for these self defining descriptions to exist. I didn’t know what Iwas for a long time and still see it as a open ended discussion. I have sometimes taken a descriptive position purely for political reasons – a reactionary position usually to counter other peoples claims for me. An example of that was to counter the often made claim for my practice by people: ‘Oh you’re not a jeweller  – you are an artist that makes small sculptures’. Meant as a compliment but several reasons to dispute that description – not the least being because it seems to suggest ‘small sculpture’ is a greater endeavor than ‘jewellery’. It reduces the entire history of jewellery making to a side bar game of sculptural practice – how big something is. So calling myself a jeweller was/is a political statement. Anyway enough  – I should be at work…have a good time in Sydney Below, experimental works that i am trying to develop for Marzee gallery exhibition.

August 1st – 12th  2011

Whitireia Polytechnic 2011 Graduating Students Award Recipient

Jessica Winchcombe

‘Protect’

“Jessica Winchcombe has great potential as an international maker to watch. She has an energy rarely seen and has reached a maturity in her work, which is taking her to new heights.

One of our own criteria that we attached to that of Fingers’, involved an assessment of how the student had progressed from their mid-year solo show, to their graduation show at the completion of the year. Jess has done that with the most impact. Karl Fritsch and Lisa Walker (co-judges) agreed without any doubts, saying impressively, that Jessica’s new work is completely unique, stands alone, works very well as a cohesive body of work, works well on the body and has an international quality.” Peter Deckers, Whitireia Polytechnic Jewellery Programme leader “Jessica Winchcombe is a contemporary jeweller who enjoys pushing boundaries. Jessica’s concept explores exciting new materials for a fresh visual impact. In this body of work, Winchcombe has been researching a range of ideas surrounding armour and protection mechanisms. “Practical defence elements and their social implications intrigue me, from a beetles defence mechanism or a costume we can hide behind, to leather battle armour”. The precious elements in Jessica’s work are semi-hidden in order to provide a context by which the outer protective forms can be glorified. The true narrative of this work is focussing on the protector rather than the protected.” Jessica Winchcombe, 2011

These works were made with mentoring from Warwick and Peter Deckers. Currently in Fingers Gallery Auckland.

Warwick

This whole idea of linking to someone we admire is fantastic personally but i begin to relise how strong the jewellery community is getting as the gaps seem to be fulling with mentoring developing more and more around the world after being inspired by handshake’s projects Blog.

Warwick 

Above Warwicks Handles 

-Below Jessica Winchcombe open studio 2010

Jessica Winchco

mbe1st March 2011

I guess opposites attract. I admire Warwick for everything he does that I don’t. Warwick makes masculine forms and I make feminine forms. Warwick is a technical genius and I am a simple finisher. Warwick often makes multiple concise works and I make crazy one offs. In 2008 I had the pleasure of attending a workshop with him. He had found a handle that had washed up on the beach and he had responded to it making a replica in gum. The object was beautiful. The idea was that we took something and then made it again in a different media. But I just wanted to respond to him and his works. So I made a series of narrative works that told the story of how his handle ended up on the beach. The works had a masculine feel to them but were in my style. They were the strongest and most fun works created by me all year. I am fascinated in creative collaboration in all its forms and am super exited to see what unfolds this time. Below, Recent works by Jessica Winchcombe

Stacks and folds object/ Necklace Blue and brown Dyed Leather, plastic, copper

 Growing Form object/pendant , Layers of dyed leather, silver and Aluminum To feel a form, object /necklace Dyed leather, brass, aluminum

WOMANUP

Warwick Freeman 7th April 2011

Pendants by Elsie Reeve from early 1920s. Collection of Museum of New Zealand. Te Papa Tongarewa

‘Warwick makes masculine forms and I make feminine forms.’

Yeah, I mean just look at those Handles – come back Sigmund, all is forgiven. Come to think of it, the work I’m making at the moment is rather pointy as well. But how much of our jewellery making world is divided along those masculine/ feminine lines? One feature of that divided world we are able to observe is the change that has taken place in the ratio of male to female jewellery makers. A quick look back at the contemporary jewellery scene will reveal that the change from that being mainly men to now being mainly women makers has happened relatively quickly – the feminisation of contemporary jewellery practice in New Zealand has taken place in less than 20 years. My cursory research on some group shows of New Zealand contemporary jewellery over a lesser 10 year period illustrates that change: Of the 12 artists in the 1988 exhibition Bone Stone Shell, only 2 were women. Open Heart in 1993 had 13 artists – 4 were women Pretty in 1998 had 12 artists – 11 were women. I said cursory, those were the first 3 catalogues I pulled from the bookshelves so don’t point out the shows that spoil that hypothesis – besides the hypothesis is borne out today when you walk into any tertiary level jewellery department in the country – and confirmed at the Boot Camp organised for emerging jewellers held in Oxford, Canterbury in February – all the participants there were female. And of the 24 involved in the Hand Shake project Karl, Fabrizio and I are the only males involved and we are amongst the mentors – the other mentors and mentees are female. Does this mean anything? No not really. It makes some sense in that women wear jewellery the most and so it seems right to me they should predominately design and make it. The first jewellery courses weren’t established in New Zealand until the late 1980’s, so the pre-institutional history of self teaching in contemporary jewellery, mainly attracted men. Generally the history of western art has been predominantly men with paint, men with cameras, men with any form of technology relating to art making and particularly men with metal. Historically guilds were probably gender specific and men got the metal department, therefore men usually made jewellery. Yes, plenty of exceptions and New Zealand jewellery does has a significant female history. (A short un-researched, pre 1980 roll call to remind us of some notable exceptions: Elsie Reeve (see her work above), Ida Hudig, Tanya Ashken, Elena Gee). Jessica’s attraction of opposites principle behind choosing me, as her HandShake mentor/collaborator, is a brave decision. Does collaboration imply a negotiation, an accommodation of those differences, or will it be an agreement to differ? Jessica and I will find out. Meanwhile – Masculine/feminine – it’s an interesting starting point.

Jessica  19th March

I sent a few of my leather works to Warwick, a good old fashioned letter explaining some misgivings i had about where to go next with my works. A few weeks later we met in Wellington for lunch to have our first handshake.
We had a lovely time chatting about art and artists. Although at the time we came to no direct conclusion as to what the next step might be for my works, we got a good idea of how each other approach our practice.
I found Warwick very relaxed and  generous with his time and experiences.
Below is one of the pieces i sent to Warwick originally.
Brooch, Silver,Leather, Aluminum,paint
 Folds into form,
Brooch Blue and green Dyed leather, silver, aluminum By Jessica Winchcombe 2010
Skin, pearls, leather and silks have provocative, tactile natures. They grow, they change, they evolve through form, through folds, through dying and natural distressing. I am fascinated by the change of a material’s appearance.  In this series my materials open fresh pathways, meandering through new discoveries in layering, textures and forms. Offering the viewer an experience not only visually but also, through
touch…..

Warwick and Jessica Meet for Lunch 19 April 2011

 We discussed were i might take the leather pieces next. I showed Warwick my models and experiments of where i had been combining two ideas together

using the shapes originally covered in leather and almost turning them inside out.

My concern was that they are a bit lost on a plinth but come alive on the body. Also that they were a bit close to what might be happening in some couture fashion accessories at the moment.
Warwick’s concern was that the layer
ed leather was lost under the cage like over form. He thought the layers of different leather that was dyed or painted were strong mixed with the painted steel. He suggested that maybe i should experiment with that more.
Below is my original model which when disassembled becomes an interesting set of formed aluminium and leather components. In response to Warwick’s suggestion i have been experimenting with new combinations.

Below is the most successful combination i have been experimenting with to date.

Jessica  April 27 2011

Personal Mail to Warwick
Hi there Warwick ,
Thank you for a lovely lunch last week. It was really great to chat to you about art and artists.
You have given me more to think about than it first appeared. Learning a bit about your aesthetics from how you talk about others works or shows is very interesting. Taking a few thoughts to apply to my works. I was thinking about how you said it would be interesting if artists made a body of work then just picked one piece to represent themselves. Looking at all my many works i will pick one that represents me. The Aim Being to improve the piece and look further into it. Technically developing it to improve and finish the piece with more consideration. I will let you know how it is going soon.
Jess
Many works from my solo show One of One in Thistle hall 2011
I really am not sure what one to pick and develop at all. l.o.l

Warwick  29 April 2011

Thanks Jess That’s a nice appreciation of our first meeting. I was feeling that it lacked a certain ‘clarity’ (clarity is my word du jour – just finished writing to Amelia about her show at Photospace in those terms)  so it’s nice you have done the work and thought it though in the way you have. I was looking for that ‘clarity’ in something practical  – perhaps a solution involving something like colour but that would have been just part of the story. Your approach is much more astute – good thinking.

One thought I had is how you engage with fashion, and how the relationship that  Contemp.Jewellery has with fashion is a fraught one. The usual role jewellery plays in fashion is as accessory and that’s not one CJ  likes –  preferring instead the role of jewellery as art object (to be worn or not). Unlike a lot of CJ artists I position my work along a line closer to accessory that most of them would be comfortable with. I don’t engage directly with fashion but I do acknowledge and enjoy how my work is used in that relationship. What I mean is the reading of the work purely as art object is potentially very misleading. A work can look dead as an object but come alive when being worn and engaging with costume and character. Its not an excuse to give your work less attention though and your ambition to give a work more ‘consideration’ is a good instinct to follow. Good luck. W.

Jessica thoughts 1 may 2011

Response

I have been thinking about the Handshake project and how the process of  interacting with a artist I admire, is an interesting topic to respond to in it’s self. I drew up some sketchers of  response directly to the idea of having a mentor. Perhaps with the idea of how exclusive and precious the project feels after hand picking a master and them accepting the challenge of a recent graduate. Some ideas hold elements of personal interaction such as a double sided glove that my Mentor and Myself could wear at the same time with an explosion of colored sculpture in the middle. Some are more general such as a double sided brooch. Some are playful like a skipping rope that can be used by myself and mentor at the same time. Possibly each handel would be made to fit our own hand prints. I had a lot of fun thinking about these objects of interaction and imagined Warwick and i having a photo shoot with these pieces for a catalogue.

Warwick 6 may 2011

Hi Jess I’ve chickened out of doing your ‘greatest piece ‘ challenge. Instead offering something that evolved from another sort of mentoring relationship.

‘Mask’ isfrom 2007. It’s one of an ongoing collection of works that are based on found objects that Otto Künzli has sent me. It’s not a project we planned but he has randomly provided me with material in this manner for a number of years now.

The object the ‘Mask’ is based on he found in the street near his apartment in Munich  – perhaps a piece of car exhaust (see below). It arrived in the mail with the usual comment about how he thought it looked like something I would make. They’re not sent with any intention that I will remake them but sometimes I can’t resist  – they usually do look like something I would make – especially after I have remade them.

I pretty much hammered the 2 ounces of fine gold into shape over the found piece so it’s the same size –  95 x 150mm. The 2 rivets at the top are holding a bar brooch type fitting so the piece is a brooch.

So just like HandShake it has its genesis in a relationship with another artist.

HandShake for me is not sitting down and saying to you ‘maybe try it like this ‘ (not in the ‘Warwick and Jessica have lunch’ way) because I’m actually not very practiced in that role. Reviving the ‘masculine/feminine theme of earlier mail; men are supposed to be very keen to provide solutions to problems but in this case I suspect my solutions aren’t very likely to be yours.

I’ve had no tutors (not since my secondary school art teacher) but I’ve had a shit load of mentors – most of them informally playing the role to the extent they didn’t even know they were mentoring me. Some I even imagined in the role. Perhaps my developing the concept of having notional mentors is something you can blame on the loneliness of the long distance maker. But I’ve found, if it fuels the decision making process in my workshop, then imagined conversations are sometimes, in lieu of real ones, just as productive.

But Otto is a more than a notional mentor, a very real one as a source of my ‘remakes’ and although Otto takes no direct role in my practice he is a shaping influence because I want him to and let him have that influence. I think HandShake is an opportunity to be open to influence.

Maybe we should find each other remakes in this same manner – meanwhile here’s one of mine:

W.

Jessica 16 th may 2011

 Left is my studio. I am currently working on my 2011 scheduled exhibitions, this has led me to be making constantly and developing many interesting models. Jessica June/July

I suspect my solutions aren’t very likely to be yours. 

Warwick says some fantastic things in relation to what could be a mentor relation ship. I was sitting with Karl and Lisa at there kitchen table having coffee and muffins at the beginning of the Handshake project and as we are all part of the project (them being mentors) asked what i hoped for. Also how My and Worwick’s  first meeting went. We were having a laugh as i said it was a fantastic chance to make something different to what i usually do and that i had all ready provided answers that fictitiously Warwick had answered. I had also responded to his advice and my works were all ready developing. Funny enough Warwick didn’t give me any of the pre conceived advice when we met. In fact he was much more interesting than my Fictional practical advice. Although i must admit i still wish he said ” Hey Jess why don’t you make heaps of cool crazy fronts and ill make my amazing brooch backs for them” lol Dreams are free eh. Just for the record i did ask Warwick if i could give him my unsolved works to solve. He said he had his own jewellery problems to solve. So i could come to His Auckland studio and he would do a show and tell of his problem pieces. “Some help that was,Warwick doesn’t have jewellery problems he is famous “ Any way back to the different ways one can be mentored. I  have a collection of photos on my studio wall of people wearing my jewellery and my partner likes to come in to my studio and give me feed back on what i am making. This involves him having a fictional conversation with Peter Deckers who is one of my Mentors and a good friend of my partner and myself. The conversation is usually over something i think is amazing and Tim thinks is a dud and he picks it up and  shows it to the Peter Picture and tells him how it doesn’t work .Then he puts on Peter’s voice proceeding to tell me why it is not working as part of the body of work…….. Well the funny thing is i respect them both so this puppet show usually changes my mind. Just one opinion would not have changed my mind ( I am crying laughing sharing this.) Left Peter                          Below  Tim The Puppeteer So this is how i have came to making works that are revolving around Action and Reaction or more visibly Take and replace. Some times it is so hard to pin point what influenced a move or shift in works but to be sure what Warwick has pointed out about the many mentors in his own practice is so intriguing and now he fills a gap for me just like those mentors have done for him practically or fictitiously. Take and Replace. I like that.

Did you know last time i was in Germany was in 2010 i was in my last year of study and wanted to visit the Academy.
I was there as they were setting up for there final year exhibition.It was quite a hive of energy.
 They had recently printed an amazing book of a show in China or Japan, anyway something had gone wrong with the partnership and only the sample books were printed. Otto encouraged me to spend a few hours with the book.( a real piece of exploration)
 After that he talked to me for a long time about concept art. The days following i was encouraged to see the set up and adopted by a French student who had the job of framing your picture for the wall of fame. She was quite exited about it. There was a funny woven frame she was considering. Because you are from an Island.
I wonder if you will see it there on the wall if you go this time.
I enjoyed chatting to Otto or more like listening to his ideas. When i left he gave me his email to write about whats happening in N.Z. Although i haven’t been very good at that. In 2011 when we were asked if we would like to pick a mentor i had no clue as there is so many interesting artist in the world. So I asked Otto who i should pick, He wrote back to say to pick YOU.
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